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A Few Words with Jeffrey DeSocio

A Few Words with Jeffrey DeSocio

October 7, 2019

Episode 84 - A Few Words with Jeffrey DeSocio

In this episode - recorded on Thursday, October 3, 2019 - I talk to Jeffrey DeSocio, accomplished IT professional and well-known networking authority, about marketing, social media, Toastmasters, the Boston networking scene and even our shared passion for reading Rolling Stone magazine. 

About Jeffrey DeSocio (In His Own Words from His LinkedIn Profile)

I am an accomplished Information Technology Leader and Strategic Professional with extensive experience leading information technology initiatives in retail, health care, high-technology, manufacturing, education management and financial services industries. I have demonstrated ability to impact the enterprise bottom line and performance through expert alignment of technologies with corporate mission. I have built talented teams, continuously providing members with training, support, resources, guidance, and motivation to exceed organizational objectives. I have a reputation for completing complex, multi-million dollar projects on time and within budget.

I am also the founder of Mass Professional Networking and Mass Tech Networking, which is one of Greater Boston's leading business networking groups with monthly events and business networking advisory services. The mission of the groups is to connect professionals and help build a resource to help further their careers and business.

I am also an accomplished digital and internet marketing professional with a rare blend of technology and marketing acumen. An avid public speaker, business networker & connector, with a goal of helping others in business through my knowledge, products, services & connections.

A Few Words with Emilia Chagas

A Few Words with Emilia Chagas

September 30, 2019

Episode 83 - A Few Words with Emilia Chagas

In this episode - recorded on September 27, 2019, at IEC Partners in Newton, Massachusetts - I talk to Emilia Chagas, co-founder and CEO of Contentools about her company, marketing, social media and much more. 

About Emilia Chagas

Emilia Chagas is co-founder & CEO of, a content marketing platform that helps +1,200 marketing teams plan, create, distribute and analyze online content. As a content manager for over 8 years, Emilia has led video, book, and web-based content projects in both Enterprises and SMBs. 

Involve Your Customers in the Sales Process

Involve Your Customers in the Sales Process

September 19, 2019

Episode 82 - Involve Your Customers in the Sales Process

The customer journey is one thing, the sales experience is another.

The process you go through in the delivery of your products and services is critical to making a customer for life.

Everyone who buys anything from you wants to get know the people behind the scenes, the hired hands and laborers, the engineers and artists, the managers and staffers, the gurus and geniuses.

The more they get to know you and your team, the more comfortable and confident they’ll feel doing business with you.

Don’t hide behind a corporate logo. Don’t work in secret.

Get out of the boardroom and into the field.

Whatever you do, whatever you sell, engage with your constituents and invite them into your world.

You’ll make more than a few bucks, you’ll make a lifelong fan.

P.S. Thanks to Kurt Brown and The Gallery Tattoo Studio in Concord, Massachusetts, not just for the ridiculously awesome tattoos, but for inspiring me to record this video about such a great lesson in sales.

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A Few Words with Dave Matson

A Few Words with Dave Matson

September 3, 2019

Episode 81 - A Few Words with Dave Matson

In this episode, I have a ridiculously awesome conversation with David Matson on the patio in front of the restaurant, 29 Rustic Mediterranean, in Sudbury. Dave is a digital marketer who specializes in SEO, lead generation, content strategy and social media. We talk about content marketing, SEO, community management on Facebook, even some of our favorite rock bands. 

About David Matson (in Dave's Words, from his LinkedIn Profile)

Digital marketer focused on SEO, lead generation, content strategy, and social media.

I built a business that generated thousands of leads per month for criminal defense lawyers from organic search.

I am the founder and organizer of one of the largest and oldest SEO Meetup groups in the country. 

Advertising is Everywhere

Advertising is Everywhere

August 21, 2019

Episode 80 - Advertising is Everywhere 

Advertising, marketing, PR and social media…all this is changing at breakneck speed.

What strategies and tactics worked for us a few years ago, or as recently as last year, could easily backfire on us today.

We can’t afford to have whatever messages we’re sharing with our own respective audiences be anything but relevant, timely, engaging and even amusing.

Never mind the glut of content people are trying to sort through and digest, many consumers, customers and clients won’t tolerate anything that even resembles a sales pitch anymore.

Stop begging for business and start earning that business.

Stop trying to fool those on the receiving end of your messages and start trying to help them.

Stop hitting listeners, viewers and readers over the head time and again and start listening to what they really want from you.

Stop ruining their experience with media they enjoy by interrupting them, underestimating them, talking down to them and yelling at them.

Whether you engage this way with your constituency is up to you, of course, but the choices you make in how you market to the masses could make or break your business in these transformative times.

A Few Words with Jeff Copetas

A Few Words with Jeff Copetas

August 12, 2019

Episode 79 - A Few Words with Jeff Copetas

In this episode - recorded at Out of Office in Hudson, Massachusetts - I talk with Jeff Copetas, Senior Director of Web and E-Commerce at Avid Technology, about dress codes in the workplace, homegrown videos, content marketing, social media, sales, advertising, Peter Frampton, Matthew McConaughey and much more. 

My favorite quote of Jeff's from this episode? "Marketing is not 'buy my product anymore.'"

About Jeff Copetas 

Jeff says, "I use my 20-plus years in E-Commerce, Digital Marketing and Social Media to help teams succeed and create value inside of organizations. And to have fun doing it, because that's just as important. Completely driven by data, conversion rate optimization, A/B testing and ALWAYS taking the perspective of the customer. Other than that, I am also a person. I love nonfiction books, ice cream, music and playing ice hockey. I’m a huge fan of long, hot showers and the Director of Web & ECommerce at Avid Technology."

A Few Words with Peter Berson

A Few Words with Peter Berson

July 29, 2019

Episode 78 - A Few Words with Peter Berson

In this episode - recorded on the outside front patio at 29 Rustic Mediterranean in Sudbury, MA - I talk with digital marketing professional, Peter Berson, about his partnership with the digital marketing agency network, WSI, and his thoughts on everything from social media to SEO, TikTok to Twitter, industry disruption to personal branding. Listen...

About Peter Berson (In His Own Words)

My name is Peter Berson, and I’ve been part of the WSI team for a year. Based out of Westford, Massachusetts, I enjoy living here because of the oceans, mountains, and the city of Boston.

When thinking about the skills I bring to our clients, I’d highlight that I’m a Strategist and tactician working with businesses in getting discovered on the internet since 1994. I’m the Director of a team of experts who create stand-out website designs and develop plans to help clients with online brand management. 

In addition to my partnership with WSI, I have 25 years of experience working with high-tech startups. I have worked in development, quality assurance, pre/post-sales consulting, presenting products, and perfecting marketing skills. This extensive experience allows me to help your digital marketing needs with Responsive Web Design, SEO, Social, Business Analysis. Peter graduated from Framingham State College with a BS in Computer Science.

How would I describe my focus few words, "I'm a Marketing strategist helping identifying companies lead generation problem and the solution to solve it."

Aveli By WSI
Westford, MA 01886
Phone 978-496-9176
Peter Berson, Principal

There’s No Yabba Dabba Doo on Social Media

There’s No Yabba Dabba Doo on Social Media

July 24, 2019

Episode 77 - There's No Yabba Dabba Doo on Social Media 

There’s no quitting time on social media.

There’s no signing off for the day.

We’re not talking about a routine, nine-to-five job, after all.

We’re talking about a job that requires you to be conspicuous in your presence day in and day out - nights, weekends and holidays, too.

You never know when your connections and customers are going to want to engage with you.

You have no idea when your followers are going to have a question for you.

If you’re out of sight, you’re out of mind when it comes to doing business on LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and the like.

There’s no Yabba Dabba Doo on social media.

Social Media Can Change the World

Social Media Can Change the World

July 18, 2019

Episode 76 - Social Media Can Change the World

Far too many brands and businesses are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole on social media.

They’re using LinkedIn, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and the like as broadcast channels, places to promote themselves instead of to share and engage with others.

They're not posting nearly enough, either.

They're still not getting it.

Marketing, advertising, sales, PR, heck, whatever line of business you're in…it’s all changing rapidly before our very eyes. Consumers don’t believe anything anymore. So, transparency wins.

You want to have your audience’s attention? You want to earn their trust and loyalty? Stop manipulating them and start listening to them. Put yourself out there on a frequent basis and let them get to know you as a human being, not a corporate logo or a company executive.

Social media is a natural extension of ourselves, a documentation of who we are as people in both our professional and personal lives.

Social media can help you grow your business and your own personal brand.

Social media can educate, entertain and enlighten.

Social media can help, or it can hurt. It all depends on how we use it.

Social media can change the world.

A Few Words with Julia Becker Collins

A Few Words with Julia Becker Collins

July 9, 2019

Episode 75 - A Few Words with Julia Becker Collins

In this conversation, Julia and I talk about her role as Chief Operating Officer (COO) at Vision Advertising, her "work hard, play hard" spirit, her accomplishments as an athlete and the many challenges she's faced in both her personal and professional lives. 

About Julia Becker Collins (from Vision Advertising's website at

Julia Becker Collins is the Chief Operating Officer here at Vision Advertising. If Vision Advertising was a wheel, Julia would be the hub on which everything turns. She leads all aspects of the company, from developing and implementing the marketing plans of clients to managing the operations of all of Vision’s staff. Under her leadership, this marketing agency continues to grow, bringing on new staff and clients. Julia runs Vision Advertising and is the primary point of contact for everything from new clients to her growing staff.

Before joining Vision Advertising in 2016 as the Vice President of Marketing & Operations, Julia already had 12 years of experience in marketing, event planning, and fundraising in the corporate and nonprofit world, including strategy and implementation of inbound and outbound marketing, national trade shows, public speaking, social media management, direct marketing, Salesforce administration, and website creation.

Previously, Julia was the Director of Marketing at Boston Color Graphics, a full-service marketing firm that specializes in fundraising marketing solutions for nonprofits across the U.S. She has also worked with notable nonprofits in the Boston area, such as Temple Emanuel and Hyde Square Task Force, where she focused on communications strategy and implementation, public relations, fundraising events, capital campaigns, major gifts, and restructuring departmental systems.

Julia is also the Founding President (emeritus) & Co-Founder of the MetroWest Women’s Network, a group of ambitious local women that work together to meet their goals. 2,400 members and counting, the Network is comprised of an active online community and monthly offline events that support local women-owned businesses and offers networking opportunities for women at all stages of their careers.

Julia holds an MPA from Framingham State University and a BA from the University of Massachusetts Amherst. She was awarded the Distinguished Alum Award by the University of Massachusetts Amherst’s Women, Gender, and Sexuality Department in May 2016.

Julia brings both her entrepreneurial spirit and own brand of women’s support and empowerment to her work and play. At Vision Advertising, she mentors female staff and business owners to succeed at their work and life. She regularly speaks at women in business events hosted by her network and in the greater Massachusetts area in conferences and seminars on topics from women in business to marketing strategies. Julia is also an avid volunteer, especially with her alma maters.

Julia has always been about overcoming obstacles. When a major illness struck her in 2014, Julia was in and out of the BIDMC Emergency Room. After recovering from a serious surgery in which three of her organs were removed, she decided not only to get back to her previous health, but to exceed it. 5 years later, Julia has thousands of hours and miles behind her as an athlete, training and competing in Spartan Races such as the Sprint, Super, and Beast – and has started doing all three twice as the Spartan Double Trifecta. All on top of regular running, bootcamps, strength training, barre, and yoga classes. Julia embodies the “work hard, play hard” spirit of Vision Advertising.