Bob Cargill’s Marketing Show
People Don’t Like Advertising and Marketing

People Don’t Like Advertising and Marketing

November 26, 2019

Episode 87 - People Don't Like Advertising and Marketing

I hate to break it to you, but people don’t want to be interrupted by advertising and marketing.

I know. That’s the last thing I want to hear, too, as I’ve earned my livelihood in this business for years.

But we can’t bury our heads in the sand. We can’t look the other way. We can’t say we weren’t warned.

Not after reading a recent article in The New York Times (“The Advertising Industry Has a Problem: People Hate Ads" ( that painted a very pessimistic picture of what my colleagues and I do for a living.

Consumers are turning off and tuning out, going so far as to pay extra to receive news, information and entertainment without being bothered by brands’ incessant cries for attention and engagement.

This is what I’ve been saying for a while now in my videos and presentations, advertisers and marketers have to change how they do business or else.

This is why I believe so strongly in social media, as it represents a much more authentic, credible way of communicating with our audience members.

What’s Your Goldfish?

What’s Your Goldfish?

November 7, 2019

Episode 86 - What's Your Goldfish? 

"The goal of marketing is to capture the mind and ultimately conquer the heart of your target audience,” says Stan Phelps, CSP.

I couldn’t agree with him more.

Brands and businesses need to provide their customers and prospects with an exceptional experience they’ll remember for a long time and rave about among their own respective networks.

If you don’t know Stan, you’re missing out. He’s an acclaimed public speaker, a best-selling author, a rock star of a marketer and a great guy, too. He’s written a bunch of books about marketing using the goldfish as a symbol for that little something extra that makes a mighty big difference to the consumer.

What’s your goldfish?

What do you do differently to stand out from the competition?

Are you capturing the minds and conquering the hearts of those on the receiving end of your marketing messages?

Are you going above and beyond to provide those in your audience with a remarkable experience, one that will keep them coming back to you time and time again?

A Few Words with Ed McDonough

A Few Words with Ed McDonough

October 21, 2019

Episode 85 - A Few Words with Ed McDonough

In this episode - recorded on Friday, October 18, 2019 - I talk to Ed McDonough, Founder and President of ECE Marketing Services, about his new book, The Email Marketing Advantage, and a range of marketing-related topics and issues. 

About Ed McDonough

Ed McDonough is a nationally recognized Email Marketing Consultant, Creator of the Quantum Email Marketing Platform, the author of The Complete Internet Marketing Strategy Guide, The Email Marketing Advantage and the founder of the marketing agency, ECE Marketing Services (established 2009).

Since 2001 Ed has been a successful entrepreneur and multi-business owner who has a unique talent for developing and implementing long-term profitable marketing strategies.

In addition to his business owner experience, Mr. McDonough spent over 25 years as a top-level Information Technology professional and Project Management Consultant in Corporate America, making him well versed in all facets of the business environment.

Ed is a graduate of the EPC Institute and the Expect Success Academy; he is a certified Email Marketing Specialist and Consultant.

Active in the local business community, Ed is an experienced business speaker who is engaging, informing, entertaining and educating. He tells it like it is and passionately shares his knowledge and real-life experiences with an open heart so the audience can take action and being growing their business as soon as they leave one of his seminars or workshops.

Mr. McDonough is also active in the local community. He is on the Board of Directors for the Friends of St. Patrick association in Walpole, MA and the former Chairman of the Board of the United Regional Chamber of Commerce, along with being a supporter of other local community-based organizations and events.

Ed currently works with companies to increase their cash flow, generated more revenue and maximize their profitability through the implementation of predictable, measurable and strategic email marketing business systems.

Contact Information:
Ed McDonough
ECE Marketing Services
869 Main Street
Suite 1
Walpole, MA 02081


A Few Words with Jeffrey DeSocio

A Few Words with Jeffrey DeSocio

October 7, 2019

Episode 84 - A Few Words with Jeffrey DeSocio

In this episode - recorded on Thursday, October 3, 2019 - I talk to Jeffrey DeSocio, accomplished IT professional and well-known networking authority, about marketing, social media, Toastmasters, the Boston networking scene and even our shared passion for reading Rolling Stone magazine. 

About Jeffrey DeSocio (In His Own Words from His LinkedIn Profile)

I am an accomplished Information Technology Leader and Strategic Professional with extensive experience leading information technology initiatives in retail, health care, high-technology, manufacturing, education management and financial services industries. I have demonstrated ability to impact the enterprise bottom line and performance through expert alignment of technologies with corporate mission. I have built talented teams, continuously providing members with training, support, resources, guidance, and motivation to exceed organizational objectives. I have a reputation for completing complex, multi-million dollar projects on time and within budget.

I am also the founder of Mass Professional Networking and Mass Tech Networking, which is one of Greater Boston's leading business networking groups with monthly events and business networking advisory services. The mission of the groups is to connect professionals and help build a resource to help further their careers and business.

I am also an accomplished digital and internet marketing professional with a rare blend of technology and marketing acumen. An avid public speaker, business networker & connector, with a goal of helping others in business through my knowledge, products, services & connections.

A Few Words with Emilia Chagas

A Few Words with Emilia Chagas

September 30, 2019

Episode 83 - A Few Words with Emilia Chagas

In this episode - recorded on September 27, 2019, at IEC Partners in Newton, Massachusetts - I talk to Emilia Chagas, co-founder and CEO of Contentools about her company, marketing, social media and much more. 

About Emilia Chagas

Emilia Chagas is co-founder & CEO of, a content marketing platform that helps +1,200 marketing teams plan, create, distribute and analyze online content. As a content manager for over 8 years, Emilia has led video, book, and web-based content projects in both Enterprises and SMBs. 

Involve Your Customers in the Sales Process

Involve Your Customers in the Sales Process

September 19, 2019

Episode 82 - Involve Your Customers in the Sales Process

The customer journey is one thing, the sales experience is another.

The process you go through in the delivery of your products and services is critical to making a customer for life.

Everyone who buys anything from you wants to get know the people behind the scenes, the hired hands and laborers, the engineers and artists, the managers and staffers, the gurus and geniuses.

The more they get to know you and your team, the more comfortable and confident they’ll feel doing business with you.

Don’t hide behind a corporate logo. Don’t work in secret.

Get out of the boardroom and into the field.

Whatever you do, whatever you sell, engage with your constituents and invite them into your world.

You’ll make more than a few bucks, you’ll make a lifelong fan.

P.S. Thanks to Kurt Brown and The Gallery Tattoo Studio in Concord, Massachusetts, not just for the ridiculously awesome tattoos, but for inspiring me to record this video about such a great lesson in sales.

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A Few Words with Dave Matson

A Few Words with Dave Matson

September 3, 2019

Episode 81 - A Few Words with Dave Matson

In this episode, I have a ridiculously awesome conversation with David Matson on the patio in front of the restaurant, 29 Rustic Mediterranean, in Sudbury. Dave is a digital marketer who specializes in SEO, lead generation, content strategy and social media. We talk about content marketing, SEO, community management on Facebook, even some of our favorite rock bands. 

About David Matson (in Dave's Words, from his LinkedIn Profile)

Digital marketer focused on SEO, lead generation, content strategy, and social media.

I built a business that generated thousands of leads per month for criminal defense lawyers from organic search.

I am the founder and organizer of one of the largest and oldest SEO Meetup groups in the country. 

Advertising is Everywhere

Advertising is Everywhere

August 21, 2019

Episode 80 - Advertising is Everywhere 

Advertising, marketing, PR and social media…all this is changing at breakneck speed.

What strategies and tactics worked for us a few years ago, or as recently as last year, could easily backfire on us today.

We can’t afford to have whatever messages we’re sharing with our own respective audiences be anything but relevant, timely, engaging and even amusing.

Never mind the glut of content people are trying to sort through and digest, many consumers, customers and clients won’t tolerate anything that even resembles a sales pitch anymore.

Stop begging for business and start earning that business.

Stop trying to fool those on the receiving end of your messages and start trying to help them.

Stop hitting listeners, viewers and readers over the head time and again and start listening to what they really want from you.

Stop ruining their experience with media they enjoy by interrupting them, underestimating them, talking down to them and yelling at them.

Whether you engage this way with your constituency is up to you, of course, but the choices you make in how you market to the masses could make or break your business in these transformative times.

A Few Words with Jeff Copetas

A Few Words with Jeff Copetas

August 12, 2019

Episode 79 - A Few Words with Jeff Copetas

In this episode - recorded at Out of Office in Hudson, Massachusetts - I talk with Jeff Copetas, Senior Director of Web and E-Commerce at Avid Technology, about dress codes in the workplace, homegrown videos, content marketing, social media, sales, advertising, Peter Frampton, Matthew McConaughey and much more. 

My favorite quote of Jeff's from this episode? "Marketing is not 'buy my product anymore.'"

About Jeff Copetas 

Jeff says, "I use my 20-plus years in E-Commerce, Digital Marketing and Social Media to help teams succeed and create value inside of organizations. And to have fun doing it, because that's just as important. Completely driven by data, conversion rate optimization, A/B testing and ALWAYS taking the perspective of the customer. Other than that, I am also a person. I love nonfiction books, ice cream, music and playing ice hockey. I’m a huge fan of long, hot showers and the Director of Web & ECommerce at Avid Technology."

A Few Words with Peter Berson

A Few Words with Peter Berson

July 29, 2019

Episode 78 - A Few Words with Peter Berson

In this episode - recorded on the outside front patio at 29 Rustic Mediterranean in Sudbury, MA - I talk with digital marketing professional, Peter Berson, about his partnership with the digital marketing agency network, WSI, and his thoughts on everything from social media to SEO, TikTok to Twitter, industry disruption to personal branding. Listen...

About Peter Berson (In His Own Words)

My name is Peter Berson, and I’ve been part of the WSI team for a year. Based out of Westford, Massachusetts, I enjoy living here because of the oceans, mountains, and the city of Boston.

When thinking about the skills I bring to our clients, I’d highlight that I’m a Strategist and tactician working with businesses in getting discovered on the internet since 1994. I’m the Director of a team of experts who create stand-out website designs and develop plans to help clients with online brand management. 

In addition to my partnership with WSI, I have 25 years of experience working with high-tech startups. I have worked in development, quality assurance, pre/post-sales consulting, presenting products, and perfecting marketing skills. This extensive experience allows me to help your digital marketing needs with Responsive Web Design, SEO, Social, Business Analysis. Peter graduated from Framingham State College with a BS in Computer Science.

How would I describe my focus few words, "I'm a Marketing strategist helping identifying companies lead generation problem and the solution to solve it."

Aveli By WSI
Westford, MA 01886
Phone 978-496-9176
Peter Berson, Principal